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Download enclosure-links get lost on exporting articles

Robertina — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:56:10 +0300

Dear developer team,

I downloaded your "atom_podcast_example.xsl", saved it to stylesheet folder with name "atom.xsl" and it works fine: all feed items including attachements now show a "Download enclosure"-link at their bottom.

Unfortunately this links get lost with exporting this arcticles to the file system, no one of the exported items do contain the download link any more as I could see in notepad.
Is there a way to change this behaviour by myself?

Happy Easter!

Top 2 feature requests, not top 2 issues.

ppfr — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:18:43 +0300

#2 issue (broken unread count). OK, forget about it, this problem has vanished for me, it only appears sporadically.
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#1 issue. I have around 280 feeds and something like 30 to 50 smartfeeds.
Yes, "add additional performance" is checked. Is this bad?
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If you read my post carefully, I was expecting feedback about my top 2 feature requests, as tom-admin asked me to summarize my top requests. You know, it is very hard to summarize my requests, because I have made so many in the past. But now that there is a solution to #3, it boils down to 2 requests: #1 make smartfeeds easier to build and #2 offer a dynamic display of feeds.
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#2 - we can really do

tom-admin — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:48:12 +0300

#2 - we can really do nothing about it at the moment. We really have tweaked unread counts as much as we can over these years. I know it does not work sometimes (the more of feeds and folders you have, the bigger is the possibility of unreadcounts to go wrong).

#1 - can you tell how many feeds you have? Basically if Feedreader will close down uncleanly (eg you terminate it because you do not want to wait) then unread counts are not saved and on startup Feedreader has to update all unreadcounts. And if you have "hide read feeds" enabled then you at first will see no feeds because unread count for them is zero (does not yet exist).

A side question - do you have "add additional performance" enabled in advanced options?

Top #1 and top #2 feature requests remaining, top # 3 solved

ppfr — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:16:48 +0300

It works, thanks. You can consider my top feature request #3 solved.
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I hope that the dev tem can give some feedback on my top feature requests #1 and #2.

No problems about this

tom-admin — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:48:17 +0300

No problems about this attachment issue. We do not have to add any features because they already exist. We just did not want to add all the possible information to article display because it makes things messy.

But if you are interested in the link to podcast/attachment then I have created example atom.xsl file for you...

Download it from here : http://www.feedreader.com/failid/atom_podcast_example.xsl

and save to stylesheet folder with the name atom.xsl. You can also first create backup of original file.

What this replacement atom.xsl gives you? It now displays original link. If you want to change the display logic then you can open atom.xsl in notepad and try to move the attachment display block to upper end of this article. I just made the simple case...

For other interested parties... To publish enclosure link we use following XSL code:

<xsl:if test="feed:link[@rel='enclosure']">
<div class="content">
<a>
<xsl:attribute name="href">
<xsl:value-of select="feed:link[@rel='enclosure'][1]/@url"/>
</xsl:attribute>
Download enclosure
</a>
</div>
</xsl:if>

Thanks for your support! I hope the dev guys could comment.

ppfr — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:58:45 +0200

Good to know that you support the feature requests. I hope that the development team will give some feedback. They ask me in the first place to summarize my top 3 feature requests, then do not even make a comment.

Concerning your comment on Top 3 feature request, I agree with you and I use this already. There is a limitation though when the feed item has an attachement, there is no context menu to the attachement in feedreader. I have asked already to make the attachement appear as a link in the text or in the headers of the item, but as 99% of my suggestions, this was ignored. Ideally, feedreader lets me use my own download manager. Otherwise, I am happy with context menu, provided that it works for feed item attachements as well.

Thanks !!!

Ferozkhanhamid — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:09:51 +0200

Thanks for fixing the problem with the proportion variation after switching to normal view !

This is fixed as from

tom-admin — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:21:31 +0200

This is fixed as from Feedreader 3.14 beta3

Can you please download in

tom-admin — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:23:27 +0200

Can you please download in any case feedreader.exe from here

http://www.feedreader.com/releases/translation/feedreader.exe

again. We fixed this bug after releasing beta2.

Also your comments about Feedreader use in eeepc are welcome. Hoe does Feedreader feel there and what do you think about Full screen mode. We developed fullscreen mode exactly for small screens.

Greetings
Toomas

I am not getting the

michalraise — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:04:02 +0200

I am not getting the 'Download articles for offline reading' selection in the context menu after selecting the 'No download, switch to offline mode' button. Please fix this.

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My top 5 bugs / feature requests...

ppfr — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:54:19 +0200

Hello, thanks for taking the time to reply in detail. So this new feature is something that has been asked before by your users? Then fine. Just forgive my ignorance on this point.

I cannot disagree *more* with your "broader view". I understand that you need money and that programming has a cost for your team. That is what paying customers are for. I will be honest with you. I have never made a donation on your site and probably never will. However, you must understand the value behind your non-paying user base. It is thanks to us, non paying users, that the program keeps improving. We work for you. We are your Marketing / Software Quality team.

In my case, I spend a lot of time on freeware forums helping to improve pieces of software by giving my feedback on bugs and suggesting new features. I do that for more than 20 pieces of software, and it costs me a lot of my time. I do this for the good of the users' community. I can give you the example of a very clever software programmer. During the free trial period, I reported a few bugs and improvement suggestions to him. He appreciated my comments and made the changes. To thank me for my feedback, he offered me a free registration code, so I continue to use and improve his software without paying the 25 euros for it.

What *you* are saying is that I should pay you? It is quite the opposite. Do you know many people willing to do some job for a company and give some money to the company? It is like having a negative salary... I forgive you if you overlook some feature requests or skip a bug correction. This is human and happens in real life also. But suggesting to pay 50 euros for you to correct a bug is nonsense. If it is so, then you had better close the forum and build a paypal page where users input their VISA card number to force code changes on you.

You should keep in mind that when you correct a bug, it benefits all users, paying and non paying customers, not just the person who reported the bug. Be aware that your paying customers do not always have the time or the expertise to provide you with constructive feedback or to report bugs. The more you take into account the remarks of your non-paying customers, the more it will benefit paying customers and the more you guarantee your future revenue stream with them.

Finally, I want to remind you that the reason for choosing feedreader is that it is unique, it has features not seen anywhere else. Trust me, I tried many other RSS readers, and feereader really offers a unique value proposition. Implementing intelligent suggestions made by your (non-paying) users will make feedreader stand out. Don't read me wrong, feedreader is really an outstanding product, and my only goal is to make it even better / easier to use than it is already.

I understand that you do not have the time to go on the forum to browse my messages. As you know, I posted more than 100 ideas in the forum already, I will make a big effort to list my 5 top priorities. I hope that by doing so you will consider them at this point.

Before you ask, yes I regularly execute the feedreaderbackup utility on my database.

Top 1 issue. Startup/Shutdown performance. When I open feedreader, the left pane is blank. Then folders appear 1 by 1. It takes about 1 minute to get all folders to display, so in effect, I cannot use feedreader for the 1st minute or 2. When I close feedreader, it also takes more than 1 minute to close.

Top 2 issue: Unread count is erratcly dysfunctional. Even pressing “Refresh unread articles count” does not solve this issue (only “Mark this feed read” does). Although this has improved recently for me, this problem has been reported by several other users: no later than yesterday “Smartfeed unread count wrong” in the Bug report forum. Or earlier in thread “(Severe bug) Unread count stopped working in 3.13”

Top 1 feature request: make smartfeeds easier to build.
Make it possible to use AND or OR operators on the same line. Example: Title contains xxx OR yyy.
Make it possible to use the NOT: operator “Feed name does NOT contain xxx”.
Enable operators like “Tag contains yyy”.
When you want to change from “Title contains xxx” to “Body contains xxx”, make it possible to just change “Title” to “Body” in the drop down list. Currently, feedreader empties all other feeds, so you have to select again “contains” and type again “xxx”.
Threads: “Smartfeed: "Title OR Body"” , “Feed name does not contain”, and other threads.
From other users:
http://www.feedreader.com/node/1739
http://www.feedreader.com/node/1060

Top 2 feature request: offer a dynamic display of feeds. My left pane is bloated with feeds with unread items, I would like to be able to hide / show feeds based on certain criteria. Two ideas:
- create a subset of favourite feeds. Possible actions: “display only favourite feeds” or “update only favourite feeds”. But I want to keep the favourite feeds in their original folder, not in a special favourite folder.

- Hide feeds based on a condition like “Display only unread feeds with less than xxx unread items”.

Related threads: “Favorite feeds” and “Hide feeds with more than _ _ _ unread items”.

Top 3 feature request: let me use my own download manager to manage attachements.
See thread "Download with other application"
Also asked by other users. Example: http://www.feedreader.com/node/101#comment-143

Feedreader 3.14 Beta 2 released

tom-admin — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:19:27 +0200

We are happy to release next beta release of Feedreader 3.14. It's following to the Beta1 what was released here.

Changes and additions that are changed since beta1:

Offline support added

We have added basic offline support. It's good if you are going somewhere where you have a lot of time and no internet at all ;). A summer cottage, bus or plane is an example although at least in Estonia we have wifi even in intercity buses ;). You can also use this feature if you have slow internet connection because you can let Feedreader to preload all articles.

This feature turned out pretty cool. We did not want to over-engineer it and tried to keep it simple. Basically we save remote web pages (those webpages that are linked from articles title) to database. By default we do not save any images to make things run fast and smoothly. If you want to try out saving articles with images then add downloadwebpagestocache=1 to feedreader.ini. But I warn you that it may not be that smooth experience.

There are two ways of saving articles to database. One way is to select File > Offline > Work offline

After clicking on this link you will see new window that lets you automatically download articles that you need.

Just select the period from where you want to download articles, specify if you only want to download unread articles. "Leave feed updates running" means that you are activating offline mode for reading articles but at the same time everything else except the article retrieving from cache works normally. This is good maybe in case of slow connections where you would always wait for article web pages to download completely. Now you can let Feedreader download all articles to cache and then read them quickly.

If "Work offline" is activated then only difference between "online mode" is that if article is in our local cache and you click on article title in minibrowser then instead of going to remote web page Feedreader retrieves cached copy of this web page from database and shows like normal web page.

If you do not want to download all articles and are interested only in articles in some feed then you can click on "No download, just switch to offline mode" and select articles that you want to download. After this select "Download selected articles for offline viewing" from article listing popupmenu.

In previous screenshot you also see how the articles that are in cache are displayed. Basically a little blue marking in front of article title.

Other changes:

We have updated tree component that we are using inside Feedreader. It fixes some bugs but can also trigger
new. So if you see some really weird things happening to either feed tree or item listings then just let us know.
"Keep application in front when opening links in browser" is fixed

Download

Please download beta from here (zip from here).